Comments on: Why we say grace before our meals

By: Ryan

Ryan — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:09:59 +0000

FWS, my Grandma is WELS – I learned that addition – o give thanks… – from her (She’s from Southern Wisconsin). My Dad knew it as a kid, so it has been around in various circles long time.

By: Why Say Grace Before Meals « Confessing the Truth

Why Say Grace Before Meals « Confessing the Truth — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:00:17 +0000

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By: fws

fws — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:30:30 +0000

thanks todd! no turkey or pies or collard greens or any of the stuff I like to eat in the usa! beans, rice, some meat.. nothing special down here about today. the more celebrated holidays are purely pagan(like thanksgiving!)… carnival… new years (celebration of the african sea goddess imanja)… so we christians get to celebrate our holidays in church !

By: tODD

tODD — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:03:34 +0000

FWS (@6), of course, I have no idea to what degree Portland WELS churches are representative of the synod as a whole. I haven’t eaten meals with WELS people outside the area.

It’s still strange to me, though, as I grew up in the LCMS (in Texas), where the prayer ended after “to us be blest”. I always look overeager when I eat with my fellow WELS members, looking up when the prayer is only half over.

I do agree the older form is neat. But it probably does reflect a different era, when people (i.e. kids) asked to be excused from the table. Nowadays, having people start the meal at the same time is somewhat of a minor miracle.

Anyhow, not sure what cultural weight today carries for you down in Brasil, but happy Thanksgiving! Even if you aren’t having turkey, I’m sure you have much to be thankful for — more so than many today in the U.S. that are “thankful” to no one in particular.

By: Sarah in Exile

Sarah in Exile — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:16:31 +0000

It can also be noted that taking time before a meal to be still, take in the aromas, have gratitude can PHYSICALLY improve our digestion and health.

By: fws

fws — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:32:34 +0000

interesting Todd. I am 53 years old now. practices change eh? That was not the general practice 40 years ago… sigh. I am feeling O.L.D. Todd. Thanks for reminding me… probably something about having to round everyone up again AFTER they have been fed…. in our current culture this would look about like herding cats.

the older catechetical form is still way cool doncha think?

By: tODD

tODD — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:20:28 +0000

FWS (@4), the wiki article is not incorrect. The WELS churches out here in Portland add that line to the end of the common table prayer, said at the beginning of the meal.

By: fws

fws — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:45:28 +0000

The wiki article incorrectly says that the words “o give thanks to the Lord for he is good for his mercy endures forever” is sometimes added at the end.

this part appears in the catechism, from a psalm in a more extended quote.

When I was growing up in the Dakotas in a WELS church, they would do something special: before a church dinner they would gather everyone together to say “come lord jesus…” . after the meal they would again gather everyone to “return the blessing”. They would pray “o give thanks to the lord for he is good for his mercy endures forever.

Lutheran catechetical tradition likewise both begins and ends a meal with prayer. the prayer after the meal is beautifully called^”returning the blessing”.

By: Pr. John A. Frahm

Pr. John A. Frahm — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:24:08 +0000

Here’s also a wiki article on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_table_prayer

By: Pr. John A. Frahm

Pr. John A. Frahm — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:21:32 +0000

http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=2688

Here’s an article also that explains the background of the “Common Table Prayer.”