The debate

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#1 Neb on 10.07.08 at 11:22 pm

Another TIE! What really is the point of these things? I wish McCain had got his wish for the 15 town hall meetings. You know kinda like coffee in the narthex b/t church and SS.

They all had nice polished answers. McCain was more aggressive and Obama was the nice,polished speaker.

They were a dead heat in my opinion. They both have ideas on the topics presented tonight and many times were making the same point w/ different ways to get the same result.

The thing that hit me tonight was the fact of look at their record. What is their history in voting on the issues? Obama has consistently voted FAR LEFT and I’m not sure if he ever crossed party lines to side with a Republican bill/issue. McCain has actually angered Republicans by crossing the line a few times and being a moderate Republican. Are either of these candidates my ideal President? NO!

However, which candidate would represent a larger sector of the American people? Personally, I think a Right center leaning candidate (McCain) represents MORE Americans than a far left leaning candidate (Obama)

Finally, as a CONSERVATIVE Christian, I have to lean towards McCain b/c his social issues are more inline with my Biblical beliefs and help the neighbor more than Obama.

So again I put out the call. Christian Obama supporters. WHY? What makes your candidate so good? (said in all seriousness). What did Obama say in the debate tonight that was so much better than McCain?

(I’m growing tired of asking this question only to be critiqued on grammer, punctuation, or sentence structure but never getting the ? answered)

#2 Andrew on 10.07.08 at 11:34 pm

The debate did not impress me at all. It made both candidates look like a bad choice. The fact that nether one of them defended or spoke of how a free economy works worries me. If they touched on the moral issues such as abortion I must of missed it. All in all this debate did not change my vote it did though make me less excited about voting.

#3 tODD on 10.08.08 at 4:17 am

The lamest debate so far, mainly due to the ridiculous format. As one blog put it, it consisted of two parallel press conferences that happened to be in the same room (actually, that was a prediction made before the debate, based solely on the rigid rules).

Of course, like all the debates so far, it was yet again a recitation of campaign talking points, with the only obvious winner being whomever you already agreed with. That said, I’m starting to get really familiar with some of those talking points, and by the third debate, I should be able to recite up to 25% of what the candidates say. My personal (least) favorite is McCain’s “a K, a G, and a B” line. I don’t think he can talk about Georgia without it. At least we got to hear about planetariums rather than bear DNA (”paternity or criminal issue” = lafff!) tonight.

If anything, I think Obama floundered more than McCain on various questions (the Russian one pops to mind). But then, I got really tired of McCain’s Americans Are The Bestest And Can Do Anything They Put Their Minds To cheerleading, too. I’ve seen studies that at the least call into question the notion of American supremacy when it comes to productivity, and it seems like so much obvious jingoistic pandering. Our country has issues.

Obama looked bad when he felt compelled to respond out of the debate format. But I felt McCain’s take on Pakistan/al-Qaeda was silly. I was impressed that Obama actually dared to answer the priorities question, especially after McCain’s answer to the effect of “all three things would be my top priority”. This from the guy who can’t campaign and work on the economic crisis at the same time.

The only news was McCain’s offer to stabilize (inflated) home values by having the government buy up (bad) mortgages. I’m no economics expert, but that doesn’t sound terribly conservative. It sounds like yet another expensive way for our government to spend money. All so renters like me can eventually buy houses at artificially high prices that are maintained with my tax money?

#4 tODD on 10.08.08 at 4:18 am

Also, you’d think that Tom Brokaw, as moderator, would be the one person who could do something about his incessant complaints about the candidates going over time. But he didn’t.

Neb (@1), commonly cited answers to your question include the Lugar-Obama proliferation and threat reduction initiative and the Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006, and a blog entry I found also mentioned the Obama-Hagel Comprehensive Nuclear Threat Reduction provision and work on the Obama-Feingold ethics reform law (particular with respect to the DeMint amendment).

Of course, “cross[ing] party lines” will be drastically more important for a McCain presidency than it will Obama’s (have you checked the likely congressional outcomes lately?), so I’m not sure what the point is.

Also, I don’t know anybody who votes according to “which candidate would represent a larger sector of the American people”. We vote according to what we think is right or at least best, given the circumstances. This isn’t a poll about who we think other people would be happiest with.

#5 Carl Vehse on 10.08.08 at 9:50 am

The debate got off to a ridiculous start when Brokaw (already in the tank for The Obamaessiah) claimed the audience consisted of 80 uncommitted voters from the Nashville area. By now, any truly uncommitted voter should probably be consider being committed.

#6 Anon on 10.08.08 at 11:10 am

Fox needs to go ahead with debates, even though the Democrats refuse to participate. The debates already done and the one remaining are run by the Democrats, and who have selected the questions making them completely unfair and inappropriate.

#7 Neb on 10.08.08 at 11:12 pm

Maybe if I simplfy it………

Conservative Christians who are voting for OBAMA? Why?

All I’m trying to see is what left hand kingdom stuff is so important to people. I’m not eagerly waiting to prove you wrong just curious.

At the DNC, a female ‘pastor’ got up and said something to the effect of “and we look to our creator for strengh whereever he or SHE is.” Scary about the liberals ‘religion’ stance. (and McCain is wrong a bunch of things too)

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