Comments on: Temptations of the Devil http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/ Christianity, Culture, Vocation Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:42:18 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Pages tagged "satanic" http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/#comment-3205 Pages tagged "satanic" Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:31:26 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/#comment-3205 [...] bookmarks tagged satanic Temptations of the Devil saved by 5 others     Talonguard23 bookmarked on 02/11/08 | [...] [...] bookmarks tagged satanic Temptations of the Devil saved by 5 others     Talonguard23 bookmarked on 02/11/08 | [...]

]]> By: What the Devil knows . . . « Planet Augsburg http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/#comment-3194 What the Devil knows . . . « Planet Augsburg Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:55:26 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/#comment-3194 [...] knows . . . Posted by OB1-K. under Uncategorized   Picking up on Gene Veith’s posting about the readings from yesterday’s service (the temptations of Adam and Christ), we were [...] [...] knows . . . Posted by OB1-K. under Uncategorized   Picking up on Gene Veith’s posting about the readings from yesterday’s service (the temptations of Adam and Christ), we were [...]

]]> By: WebMonk http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/#comment-3193 WebMonk Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:35:31 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/#comment-3193 While I hope that a trained and experienced person at a center would be able to more properly differentiate between mental illness and possession (and thus stop or avoid abuses), I'm a bit wary of the Catholic Church opening the center, and their methods for exorcism. They can work, but their power is quite divorced from Christ and unfortunately is dangerous to both the exorcist and the exorcizee. Even more tragic is that it rarely (at least to my experience) protects the subject from later oppression or possession. Having kids regularly come back into a mental hospital after their 'exorcism', and obviously back under oppression or possession is a tragedy to see. Unfortunately, the story's reporting of what their interviewees said was not encouraging (if the reporter was accurate, which isn't particularly likely). Bror is very right that there is a lot of abuse that happens by people who 'exorcise' mental diseases such as Schizophrenia. I only know a few people who have been through demonic oppression, and only met/seen a few who were possessed. Once the real thing has been seen, there's no chance of mistaking a possession for a mental illness. Possession is rare enough on Main St, USA that I have no problem believing the stories I hear through friends of *beeping* ignorant *beeps* who have read some books (but have never actually seen possession) decide that someone they know is actually suffering from demon oppression/possession instead of a mundane thing like BiPolar, MPD, or Schizophrenia. While I hope that a trained and experienced person at a center would be able to more properly differentiate between mental illness and possession (and thus stop or avoid abuses), I’m a bit wary of the Catholic Church opening the center, and their methods for exorcism. They can work, but their power is quite divorced from Christ and unfortunately is dangerous to both the exorcist and the exorcizee. Even more tragic is that it rarely (at least to my experience) protects the subject from later oppression or possession.

Having kids regularly come back into a mental hospital after their ‘exorcism’, and obviously back under oppression or possession is a tragedy to see. Unfortunately, the story’s reporting of what their interviewees said was not encouraging (if the reporter was accurate, which isn’t particularly likely).

Bror is very right that there is a lot of abuse that happens by people who ‘exorcise’ mental diseases such as Schizophrenia. I only know a few people who have been through demonic oppression, and only met/seen a few who were possessed. Once the real thing has been seen, there’s no chance of mistaking a possession for a mental illness.

Possession is rare enough on Main St, USA that I have no problem believing the stories I hear through friends of *beeping* ignorant *beeps* who have read some books (but have never actually seen possession) decide that someone they know is actually suffering from demon oppression/possession instead of a mundane thing like BiPolar, MPD, or Schizophrenia.

]]> By: CRB http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/#comment-3191 CRB Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:24:40 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/#comment-3191 George, I think that Horton is right for a society is unfolding before our eyes in this country. Perhaps, such is a precursor to a society under Sharia law?! I believe the reason that Europe is going in the direction it's going spiritually is because of the rejection of the Gospel. One has to wonder how long before such rejection is the norm in the U.S.?! George,
I think that Horton is right for a society is unfolding before our eyes in this country. Perhaps, such is a precursor to a society under Sharia law?! I believe the reason that Europe is going in the direction it’s going spiritually is because of the rejection of the Gospel. One has to wonder how long before such rejection is the norm in the U.S.?!

]]> By: Bror Erickson http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/#comment-3185 Bror Erickson Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:10:30 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/#comment-3185 It would be interesting to see this exorcism center. I for one do believe in demonic possession. But I am also on the skeptical side, when I hear there is a center for this. Maybe though the need is that great. I just hope that the man can actually tell the difference between demonic possession and Schizophrenia. We don't need a well meaning exorcist abusing the mentally disabled. It would be interesting to see this exorcism center. I for one do believe in demonic possession. But I am also on the skeptical side, when I hear there is a center for this. Maybe though the need is that great. I just hope that the man can actually tell the difference between demonic possession and Schizophrenia. We don’t need a well meaning exorcist abusing the mentally disabled.

]]> By: George Goddard http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/#comment-3184 George Goddard Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:42:57 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/temptations-of-the-devil/_323/#comment-3184 I remember Micahel Horton's quoting someone's remarks about what a faithless or Godless society would really look like. "There would be no gum stuck to the sidewalks ... all the kids say yes ma'm and no ma'm and there would be no garbage or litter one the picket fence lined yards. And every Sunday all of the people would gather at the local churches to hear a sermon where Christ was NOT preached."! I remember Micahel Horton’s quoting someone’s remarks about what a faithless or Godless society would really look like. “There would be no gum stuck to the sidewalks … all the kids say yes ma’m and no ma’m and there would be no garbage or litter one the picket fence lined yards. And every Sunday all of the people would gather at the local churches to hear a sermon where Christ was NOT preached.”!

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