Comments on: Roman Catholic universalism

By: Vaughn Treco

Vaughn Treco — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:59:02 +0000

As a convert to Catholicism from Evangelicalism, your comments regarding “Roman Catholic universalism” are particular import to me. Recently, though, I have encountered something of great concern to me regarding the rise of “Evangelical Universalism” (See http://theologicalscribbles.blogspot.com/2009/08/i-am-evangelical-universalist.html). Would you care to offer some comment regarding this strand of Evangelical theology?

By: J.T.

J.T. — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:33:56 +0000

I think the point of Jesus’ death, from the Catholic Church’s perspective, is that all sins needed to be forgiven BEFORE all people could find communion with a God that is All-Love.

By: Necessary Roughness » Blog Archive » Lutheran Carnival LXVIII: Genuine Draft

Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:04:16 +0000

[...] Gene Veith delivers the dilemna when one views the universalism in the Roman Catholic Church. “…if faith in virtually [...]

By: CRB

CRB — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:22:19 +0000

So, nothing has changed since the Reformation, and if Luther were here to comment on the assertions of Cardinal Dulles what would he say?

By: Booklover

Booklover — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:56:51 +0000

A similar topic was discussed years back on the White Horse Inn. The hosts said that when religions focus on Jesus PLUS good works, eventually the “good works” are all that is needed and Christ is finally left out of the equation. This is what happened with John Wesley’s focus on perfectionism in Methodism, and apparently now in Dulles’ brand of Catholicism.

By: Booklover

Booklover — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:52:32 +0000

Mr. Avery Cardinal Dulles, I am appalled that you forgot to mention us Moloch-worshippers!!! Surely we are saved also! We sincerely seek god and strive to do his will, so regularly we submit our infants to the flames. Surely we shall be saved because we submit to our god’s demands of truth and justice. Please do not leave us out again.

By: Bob Waters

Bob Waters — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:40:30 +0000

Dan, what do you mean “in some parts of the ELCA?”

There are parts of the ELCA which repudiate universalism? Note that I’m not asking whether there are ELCAns who repudiate it. My question is whether there is a single synod in which the operating theology of the ELCA doesn’t assume it.

By: Assurance of salvation: a slightly different take « Planet Augsburg

Assurance of salvation: a slightly different take « Planet Augsburg — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:08:36 +0000

[...] Gene Veith’s comments on this were right on: . . . [L]et me get this straight, and keep in mind that Cardinal Dulles is no touchy-feely Catholic but a conservative Catholic in close association with the Pope. To be saved, you do not have to have faith in Jesus Christ. You can have faith in God. Or, despite the first commandment, you can have faith in God under some other name. Or, if you don’t believe in any gods, you can have faith in something else, such as truth or justice. Or, if you don’t have faith in anything, you can be saved by your good works, though this seems to be the main point even for Christians. [...]

By: fw

fw — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:07:27 +0000

#9 Richard Lewer

Absolutely.

By: Richard Lewer

Richard Lewer — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:07:49 +0000

In both cases it is our good works that finally accomplish the purpose. Both stray from Christianity even if not to the same degree.