Comments on: Pope makes nice with Luther http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/ Christianity, Culture, Vocation Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:46:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Allan Schwarb http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-57500 Allan Schwarb Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:41:14 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-57500 Interesting that the leaders who most defend the 'least of these' -- the embryo-person -- are most excoriated in the Westminster Confession of Faith (1646), Chapter 25 as '[those] Antichrist[s], [those men] of sin and son[s] of perdition,' Instead of painting 500 years of popes with this broad-brush, perhaps it's time 'love your enemy' and pray for them. Finally, if only Protestantism had such champions of the unborn. Interesting that the leaders who most defend the ‘least of these’ — the embryo-person — are most excoriated in the Westminster Confession of Faith (1646), Chapter 25 as ‘[those] Antichrist[s], [those men] of sin and son[s] of perdition,’

Instead of painting 500 years of popes with this broad-brush, perhaps it’s time ‘love your enemy’ and pray for them.

Finally, if only Protestantism had such champions of the unborn.

]]> By: fw http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4611 fw Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:28:45 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4611 #11 CA McCoy Give Lilia a hug for me. #11 CA McCoy

Give Lilia a hug for me.

]]> By: fw http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4610 fw Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:27:42 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4610 Hey Charles! fwsonnek@gmail.com I don´t have your email address charles. I would have emailed you directly long ago or called you! Hey Charles! fwsonnek@gmail.com I don´t have your email address charles. I would have emailed you directly long ago or called you!

]]> By: C.A. McCoy http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4569 C.A. McCoy Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:19:24 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4569 #10, 'tis indeed, and we would welcome contact with you as well. I believe you have my e-mail address, so please use it to drop us a line. . .sorry to do this in this venue, and apologies to Dr. V ahead for this, but it's the only way I know how to respond to you esteemed F.W. as I fear I've lost your e-mail address. We're thrilled to see Laura Pausini has won yet another grammy this year. . .Hope all is well. Saludos, desde la gran Republica de California y que Dios te bendiga! #10, ’tis indeed, and we would welcome contact with you as well. I believe you have my e-mail address, so please use it to drop us a line. . .sorry to do this in this venue, and apologies to Dr. V ahead for this, but it’s the only way I know how to respond to you esteemed F.W. as I fear I’ve lost your e-mail address.

We’re thrilled to see Laura Pausini has won yet another grammy this year. . .Hope all is well. Saludos, desde la gran Republica de California y que Dios te bendiga!

]]> By: fw http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4563 fw Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:16:55 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4563 #9 C.A. McCoy Is this the famous Charles Arthur McCoy, former Presbyterian Missionary, husband of Lilia, pedagogue extraordinaire, from the bay area of california???!!! If so, I have been looking for you! #9 C.A. McCoy

Is this the famous Charles Arthur McCoy, former Presbyterian Missionary, husband of Lilia, pedagogue extraordinaire, from the bay area of california???!!! If so, I have been looking for you!

]]> By: C.A. McCoy http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4557 C.A. McCoy Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:44:13 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4557 Beyond all the clashing of semantic swords, it would be good to see the positive aspects of the most recent papal spin on Martin Luther and his theology, which did indeed "anticipate" the reforms of the Roman Catholic Church, which is what the good Cardinal was talking about. . .the reforms which took place for instance, in the ensuing hundreds of years and in Vatican II itself. I personally thank God for those slow reforms, as they opened the door for those of us raised in a pre-Vatican II Roman Catholic Church which was far more insular and condescending toward our "separated brethren" as they now call protestants. You have no idea what it was like prior to Vatican II, and now, we can thank God for further reflection and dialogue on the theology of Martin Luther as well. . .this would have been unheard of in the days when we were taught that he was a heretic and one who due to selfish ambition was out to destroy the Church. Beyond all the clashing of semantic swords, it would be good to see the positive aspects of the most recent papal spin on Martin Luther and his theology, which did indeed “anticipate” the reforms of the Roman Catholic Church, which is what the good Cardinal was talking about. . .the reforms which took place for instance, in the ensuing hundreds of years and in Vatican II itself. I personally thank God for those slow reforms, as they opened the door for those of us raised in a pre-Vatican II Roman Catholic Church which was far more insular and condescending toward our “separated brethren” as they now call protestants. You have no idea what it was like prior to Vatican II, and now, we can thank God for further reflection and dialogue on the theology of Martin Luther as well. . .this would have been unheard of in the days when we were taught that he was a heretic and one who due to selfish ambition was out to destroy the Church.

]]> By: A weird week! « Strengthened by Grace http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4539 A weird week! « Strengthened by Grace Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:51:22 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4539 [...] Pope is thinking about saying that Martin Luther wasn’t really a [...] [...] Pope is thinking about saying that Martin Luther wasn’t really a [...]

]]> By: Joe http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4471 Joe Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:28:02 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4471 This was in the comments to the actual article and I thought it should be repeated here. The poster identified himself as, " John, Greeley, USA": "Luther was more of an "evangelical catholic" and really only sought to go back to what the earlier church fathers believed and practiced before some of the later medieval abuses, but the Pope has not dealt with two key abuses: justification by grace through faith alone in the Word and Sacraments; and the abuse of making the Mass into a propitiatory sacrifice. Though actual Lutherans are not always very faithful to their own writings they are very careful in reforming only what needed reform in accordance with Scripture. See www.bookofconcord.org or www.wittenbergtrail.com" This was in the comments to the actual article and I thought it should be repeated here. The poster identified himself as, ” John, Greeley, USA”:

“Luther was more of an “evangelical catholic” and really only sought to go back to what the earlier church fathers believed and practiced before some of the later medieval abuses, but the Pope has not dealt with two key abuses: justification by grace through faith alone in the Word and Sacraments; and the abuse of making the Mass into a propitiatory sacrifice. Though actual Lutherans are not always very faithful to their own writings they are very careful in reforming only what needed reform in accordance with Scripture. See http://www.bookofconcord.org or http://www.wittenbergtrail.com“

]]> By: Bror Erickson http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4470 Bror Erickson Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:43:05 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4470 Catholics adopting Reformed tactics. They have more in common than they thought. They can both sing Luthers praises and totally ignore him at the same time. Catholics adopting Reformed tactics. They have more in common than they thought. They can both sing Luthers praises and totally ignore him at the same time.

]]> By: BXVI to Luther: “Bygones” « Planet Augsburg http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4467 BXVI to Luther: “Bygones” « Planet Augsburg Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:19:18 +0000 http://www.geneveith.com/pope-makes-nice-with-luther/_404/#comment-4467 [...] to Luther: “Bygones” Posted by OB1-K. under OB1-K., Table talk   Gene Veith posts on Pope Benedict XVI’s upcoming meeting to discuss Martin Luther. Pope Benedict XVI is to [...] [...] to Luther: “Bygones” Posted by OB1-K. under OB1-K., Table talk   Gene Veith posts on Pope Benedict XVI’s upcoming meeting to discuss Martin Luther. Pope Benedict XVI is to [...]

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