The separation of church and states, as it is currently construed, forbids public schools or other institutions getting taxpayer money from teaching Christianity, performing Christian rites, or conducting Christian prayers. That ruling, though, is not always being applied, though, when it comes to Islam in our public, tax-supported schools. An Islamic school in Minnesota is a charter school, meaning it receives taxpayer money. Various “multicultural” curricula involve role-playing that forces students to act Muslim, which, in Islamic terms, is unseparable from BEING Muslim. Read this and click its links: Sharia in the schools: Monitoring the American madrassa.
Notice how in many leftist circles multi-culturalism trumps everything, including other liberal concerns (feminism, secularism, gay rights).
of course there is a double standard here at work.
Christianity can be loathed and spoken about with no respect or worse. Other religions must be shown respect.
It should give us extreme pause when we interject our “christian morality” into the public place.
the time is soon when we will be that openly persecuted minority. What we can impose on others, they can reasonably impose on us.
We should be careful what we spend our ammunition on.
“Notice how in many leftist circles multi-culturalism trumps everything, including other liberal concerns (feminism, secularism, gay rights).”
Interesting thought for solid Muslims would quash f,s,gr if it was in thier power to do so.
Do you think this extends even to abortion in the liberal agenda?
The gay and proaborts and the multi-cults are already shoving there so-called morality down the throats of Christian people. They will do this because their goal is to remake humanity and drown out the voice of God (conscience, natural law). The idea that Frank is suggesting is that resistance is futile and we should not agravate our persecutors. I am saying is that they will persecute us and attack us no matter what we do. We are what they hate. Their hatred for us is boundless, and not fighting them will not prevent our persecution. We might, in fact, delay our persecution by fighting the social liberals and cultural marxists.
What is playing out here in the spirtual realm is nothing less than unbelief against belief, that is, those who serve the devil against those who serve Christ and His church. And I think FW is “on the mark” about his persection prediction. It’s time to be in the Word for the sake of our faith and for those who have yet to come to faith in Christ.
#3 Greg
Frank is actually suggesting that we trust principles and correct process and structure and the rule of law.
Frank is actually suggesting that we never succumb to fighting fire with fire or believing that any means are justified by a righteous end.
We should cheerfully pay taxes and cheerfully respect and honor ALL authority (even Nero). To the extent we can do that and fight, go for it!
(To do God´s will and not do it cheerfully is to not really do God´s will)
to include me , as a gay man, among abortionists and multi-cults ….and then suggest that I hate us and want to attack us or subvert us and I should be fought… well . I am offended Greg. To be honest.
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